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    Justin26873
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    I recently had it put to me regarding advocating gun control that 1) it’s the privilege of white, upper-middle class suburbans who live in safe, clean neighborhoods where the police are friendly; 2) it’s only from this ivory tower that gun control advocates can declare that we as a society have outgrown the need to arm and defend ourselves individually and therefore support the abolition of private gun ownership for everybody; and 3) a great many African Americans, and especially Mexicans, support the right to bear arms, but when they go to voice these concerns in a public forum, they’re shouted down as Uncle Toms or ignored because such thoughts don’t mesh with the white liberal agenda, sort of a ‘We know what’s good for you people’ mentality.

    I was wondering if this account is accurate in part or whole, and would welcome any estimates from black posters on the percentage of the black comunity (including poor, rich, middle class, Democrat, Republican, etc.) who favor the right to bear arms.

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    Name : Justin26873, Gender : M, Race : White/Caucasian, Religion : Atheist, City : Chicago, State : IL Country : United States, Education level : 2 Years of College, Social class : Lower middle class, 
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    Lucy22461
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    Almost every Hispanic household I know has at least 1 firearm – be it a rifle, shotgun, revolver. Shotguns are probably the most common. So I think it’s a pretty safe bet that there are a lot of Hispanics who support the right to bear arms. The reasons are pretty obvious – most of us don’t live in really nice neighborhoods, unfortunately, whenever the police are involved, people with brown skin are usually suspects, it takes the police a long time to respond to calls in our neighborhoods, and we want to keep our families safe just as much as anybody else.

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    Name : Lucy22461, Gender : F, Race : Hispanic/Latino (may be any race), Age : 26, City : San Jose, State : CA Country : United States, Occupation : Engineer, Education level : 4 Years of College, Social class : Middle class, 
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    I. Moses
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    Though I have no hard statistics to back this up, my general sense is that most blacks would vote to outlaw guns in the hands of private citizens, and the overwhelming majority would support the most stringent registration, tracking and control requirements if guns were not outlawed. It is also my sense that most blacks think most whites in this country are insane when it comes to guns and this very insanity is responsible for so much of the reduced quality of life endured by so many here. On this subject these blacks, in general, see little distinction between rightwing or leftwing whites, rich or poor whites, urban or suburban whites. And the idea that they would formulate or modify their views to fit some liberal or conservative white agenda is silly. They see whites as being at the source of the problem and largely responsible for its perpetuation, reasoning that whites hold the real power here and if the majority of them wanted to do something different about guns then they would. Most blacks I know (and I do not think they are an atypical bunch) would say that based on their observations and direct experiences, most white folk (especially white males), through some profound, primitive sense of insecurity, have come to almost worship the gun as some enhancing appendage, an extension of their own being and a great equalizer, and have just driven themselves mad over the sense of added potency it provides. It is seen as a comic tragedy, and this crap about a sacrosanct right to bear arms, whether emanating from the NRA or Congress, is seen as just that, crap. That we have the most powerful military in the world, federal, state and local law enforcement entities surpassing in size and budget those anywhere else in the world and still somewhere between 200,000,000 and 250, 000,000 guns held privately (according to ABC News) was not a situation envisioned by the framers of the constitution when they included that archaic provision. It is seen as now serving only the paranoid, the criminal and the latter-day Neanderthal.

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    Name : I. Moses, Gender : M, Race : Black/African American, City : Columbia, State : MD Country : United States, Education level : Over 4 Years of College, 
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    alex
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    I live in Texas. Do you know who supports gun the rite to bear arms?? Well here is a hint…they look like our president.

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    Name : alex, Gender : F, Race : *poweRpuFF greeN*, Age : 19, City : houston, State : TX Country : United States, Occupation : *maDsCienTist*, 
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